HMT Orsino
HMT Orsino. (No 602) 28/09/1916
Displacement: 172 grt.
Length: 33.1 m. Beam: 6.4 m. Draught: m.
Propulsion: Steam, 1 x boiler Triple Expansion Engine.
Complement: 10 officers and men.
Crew Lost: 6
Armament: 1 x 3pdr
The Orsino was a steel steam trawler built by Mackie & Thomson Co. Glasgow in 1906 for Hull Northern Fishing Co. Ltd. - Hellyer Bros Ltd. - Hellyer Steam Fishing Co. Ltd., Hull Registered in Hull with the fishing number was H854, (1906 to 1914)
Orsino was hired to the Royal Navy from 1914 as a patrol vessel and was given pennant number FY602.
HMT Orsino left Stromness to patrol the swept channel off the north coast of Scotland on the 26th September 1916 for a two day patrol, due to return on the 27th September before noon but failed to do so. On the 28th September a message was wired to the HM Trawler Sesostris (No 1998) at Loch Eriboll to see if there was any news of Orsino. On the 29th September HMT Sesostris was sent out to conduct a search along with HMT Cambodia (No 1521) but no trace was found.
Lt Lazenby RNR of HMT Sesostris reported that on a previous occasion HMT Orsino had been found with a trawl down in the area of the minefield and was ordered not to trawl in the area of the minefield. (HD191/885).
It was originally believed that HMT Orsino had struck a mine or was lost to some other cause with the loss of all crew and in October 1916 a section of the wheelhouse, belonging to HMT Orsino, washed ashore in the Bay of Ireland, off Stromness, with shell fragments embedded in it. (National Archive ADM 1/8468/232).
It was later learned that six men died in an attack and four of the crew were taken prisoner by the U-boat U 55 (Wilhelm Werner) and landed in Helgoland.
Orsino was hired to the Royal Navy from 1914 as a patrol vessel and was given pennant number FY602.
HMT Orsino left Stromness to patrol the swept channel off the north coast of Scotland on the 26th September 1916 for a two day patrol, due to return on the 27th September before noon but failed to do so. On the 28th September a message was wired to the HM Trawler Sesostris (No 1998) at Loch Eriboll to see if there was any news of Orsino. On the 29th September HMT Sesostris was sent out to conduct a search along with HMT Cambodia (No 1521) but no trace was found.
Lt Lazenby RNR of HMT Sesostris reported that on a previous occasion HMT Orsino had been found with a trawl down in the area of the minefield and was ordered not to trawl in the area of the minefield. (HD191/885).
It was originally believed that HMT Orsino had struck a mine or was lost to some other cause with the loss of all crew and in October 1916 a section of the wheelhouse, belonging to HMT Orsino, washed ashore in the Bay of Ireland, off Stromness, with shell fragments embedded in it. (National Archive ADM 1/8468/232).
It was later learned that six men died in an attack and four of the crew were taken prisoner by the U-boat U 55 (Wilhelm Werner) and landed in Helgoland.
U55
The logbook (KTB)(Kriegstagebücher) from U55 on 28/09/1916 has the following entry translated .......
“Piloting to Pentland Firth when 10 points to port a steamer heading north is sighted, Submerged. Steamer cannot really be identified. Distance about 2500 (meters). Because it could be an auxiliary ship of some sort, followed the ship with high speed. Course 265°. Steamer went out of sight in the fog. Hunt cancelled. Course leads into Möve-Mines area. While pursuing, passed an outpost ship at 10.15 in a distance of 2000 meters; to prevent a position being signalled of the U boats position by the steamer, steamer sunk with artillery. Square 043 alpha. Four prisoners were taken on board. Steamer was a fish steamer, Admiralty Nr. 602, fishing Nr. 864, with a 7,6cm gun, 12 man crew. ''
The left margin has typed ‘visibility 1 to 2 miles, For Pentland Firth. East by South 5 (wind) Fog and rain.’
Written by hand in margin is ''10 miles, Thurso. Process combat 1 hit”.
The logbook (KTB)(Kriegstagebücher) from U55 on 28/09/1916 has the following entry translated .......
“Piloting to Pentland Firth when 10 points to port a steamer heading north is sighted, Submerged. Steamer cannot really be identified. Distance about 2500 (meters). Because it could be an auxiliary ship of some sort, followed the ship with high speed. Course 265°. Steamer went out of sight in the fog. Hunt cancelled. Course leads into Möve-Mines area. While pursuing, passed an outpost ship at 10.15 in a distance of 2000 meters; to prevent a position being signalled of the U boats position by the steamer, steamer sunk with artillery. Square 043 alpha. Four prisoners were taken on board. Steamer was a fish steamer, Admiralty Nr. 602, fishing Nr. 864, with a 7,6cm gun, 12 man crew. ''
The left margin has typed ‘visibility 1 to 2 miles, For Pentland Firth. East by South 5 (wind) Fog and rain.’
Written by hand in margin is ''10 miles, Thurso. Process combat 1 hit”.
U55’s KTB shows that the attack took place in grid square 043 alpha. This is a German coded grid used by U Boats to report positions. The image above taken from U 33s KTB map and shows where 043 alpha is located.
The Crew (Research ongoing)
Crew Lost
BLOW, Tom, (31) Engineman, RNR, ES 1393. Son of Mary Ann Blow, of 6, Doughty Rd., Grimsby, and the late George William Blow, Remembered on the Plymouth Naval Memorial
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Blow T. engineman R.N.R.
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Blow T. engineman R.N.R.
BOWLES, John, Alexander, Deck Hand, RNR, DA 1400. Remembered on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Bowles J.A. Deckhand R.N.R.
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Bowles J.A. Deckhand R.N.R.
COWIE, George,(28) 2nd Hand, RNR, SA 1117. Son of John and Mary Cowie, of 54, West Church St., Buckie, Remembered on the Buckie War Memorial and the Portsmouth Naval Memorial
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Cowie 2nd Hand R.N.R,
Aberdeen Press and Journal - Wednesday 26 February 1919
BUCKIE MATE DROWNED SUBMARINE ATTACK. Mrs Geo. Cowie, 7 Sutherland Street, Buckie, has just learned the fate of her husband, who was mate of H.M.T. Orsino when that vessel was sunk by a submarine over two years ago, and be was reported missing. The stoker of the vessel, who belongs to Grimsby, recently arrived home from captivity, and states that the Orsino was attacked by a submarine near Stromness in September, 1916. When the vessel was damaged by gunfire the stoker and three companions jumped into the sea, and were picked and taken prisoners by the Germans. The submarine then dived and made off, but when the stoker last saw the Orsino the mate and other five of the crew were still on board unharmed, but as no other craft was in sight they must down with the sinking vessel.
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Cowie 2nd Hand R.N.R,
Aberdeen Press and Journal - Wednesday 26 February 1919
BUCKIE MATE DROWNED SUBMARINE ATTACK. Mrs Geo. Cowie, 7 Sutherland Street, Buckie, has just learned the fate of her husband, who was mate of H.M.T. Orsino when that vessel was sunk by a submarine over two years ago, and be was reported missing. The stoker of the vessel, who belongs to Grimsby, recently arrived home from captivity, and states that the Orsino was attacked by a submarine near Stromness in September, 1916. When the vessel was damaged by gunfire the stoker and three companions jumped into the sea, and were picked and taken prisoners by the Germans. The submarine then dived and made off, but when the stoker last saw the Orsino the mate and other five of the crew were still on board unharmed, but as no other craft was in sight they must down with the sinking vessel.
Buckie War Memorial. Photo: © Martin Briscoe (WMR-6033)
Skipper Grinlaw (Hull Daily Mail)
GRINLAW, Thomas, Ty/Skipper, RNR SA 993. Remembered on the Plymouth Naval Memorial
Liverpool Daily Post - Monday 09 October 1916
NAVAL CASUALTIES
MISSING
Skipper Thomas Grinlaw, R.N.R.
Army and Navy Gazette - Saturday 21 October 1916
The Casualty List
ROYAL NAVAL RESERVE
Previously Reported Missing, now Presumed Killed.— Skipper T. Grinlaw.
Hull Daily Mail - Friday 28 September 1917
Grinlaw.—ln loving memory of dear husband Skipper Thomas Grinlaw, who was killed at sea, September 28th,1916
No flowers grow, no roses bloom,
Upon a sailor's grave,
For he sleeps in the secret sea.
And not one gentle whispering wave
Will tell the place to me.
—From wife and family.
Hull Daily Mail - Wednesday 03 January 1917
Skipper Thomas Grinlaw,(photo) of 12, Prince's avenue, West Dock-avenue, who was lost on a mine-sweeper. He was was 43, and leaves a widow and six children. had been in the service two years He was apprenticed with Mr J. Holmes in the time of the smacks, and had sailed for many years for Messrs Hellyer's.
Liverpool Daily Post - Monday 09 October 1916
NAVAL CASUALTIES
MISSING
Skipper Thomas Grinlaw, R.N.R.
Army and Navy Gazette - Saturday 21 October 1916
The Casualty List
ROYAL NAVAL RESERVE
Previously Reported Missing, now Presumed Killed.— Skipper T. Grinlaw.
Hull Daily Mail - Friday 28 September 1917
Grinlaw.—ln loving memory of dear husband Skipper Thomas Grinlaw, who was killed at sea, September 28th,1916
No flowers grow, no roses bloom,
Upon a sailor's grave,
For he sleeps in the secret sea.
And not one gentle whispering wave
Will tell the place to me.
—From wife and family.
Hull Daily Mail - Wednesday 03 January 1917
Skipper Thomas Grinlaw,(photo) of 12, Prince's avenue, West Dock-avenue, who was lost on a mine-sweeper. He was was 43, and leaves a widow and six children. had been in the service two years He was apprenticed with Mr J. Holmes in the time of the smacks, and had sailed for many years for Messrs Hellyer's.
KIRKPATRICK, Charles,(20) Deck Hand, RNR, DA 8003.Husband of Susan Hay Kirkpatrick, Remembered on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Kirkpatrick C. Deckhand R.N.R.
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Kirkpatrick C. Deckhand R.N.R.
WOOD, Alexander, Deck Hand, RNR, DA 9523. Remembered on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Wood A. Deckhand R.N.R.
The Scotsman - Wednesday 11 October 1916
NAVAL LOSSES
MISSING
Wood A. Deckhand R.N.R.
Taken Prisoner
Aberdeen Press and Journal - Wednesday 11 October 1916
THE NAVY
H.M. SHIPS
Missing
Trimmer Tomas Campbell Dibdin, do.
Leading Seaman Thomas Edward Humphrey, do.
Deckhands James Edward New, do.
Engineman William Redman Woodruff,do.
After HMT Orsino was sunk four survivors were found by the U55 and taken prisoner. All were slightly injured and were landed by U55 to a hospital at Helgoland. The survivors were:
DIBDIN, Thomas, Campbell, Trimmer. RNR TS 998
WOODROFF, William, Redman, Chief Petty Officer, RNR ES 721
NEW, James, Edward, Deck Hand, RNR DA 9553
HUMPHREY Thomas, Edward, Deck Hand, RNR C 2718
From ADM 1/8468/232
When considered fit the prisoners were sent to a Prisoner of War camp.
A letter from Berlin dated received 21/11/1916 states Dibdin, Woodroff and New were sent to Brandenburg POW camp near Berlin but there was no mention of Humphrey.
Brandenburg Prison of War camp (Brandenburg An Der Havel) was a camp 40 miles west of Berlin. Many Royal Navy and merchant sailor's of various nationality's were held here. Most prisoners would arrive at the camp via barges on the river Havel.
A later report dated 28th November 1916 states Humphrey was taken from fortress hospital Helgoland to fortress hospital Wilhelmshaven suffering from a wound to his back.
A letter from Berlin dated received 21/11/1916 states Dibdin, Woodroff and New were sent to Brandenburg POW camp near Berlin but there was no mention of Humphrey.
Brandenburg Prison of War camp (Brandenburg An Der Havel) was a camp 40 miles west of Berlin. Many Royal Navy and merchant sailor's of various nationality's were held here. Most prisoners would arrive at the camp via barges on the river Havel.
A later report dated 28th November 1916 states Humphrey was taken from fortress hospital Helgoland to fortress hospital Wilhelmshaven suffering from a wound to his back.
